今日美国reddit论坛最火话题之一：莫兰特获最快进步球员是否“坏了规矩”。

有网友认为，上赛季莫兰特以优异表现获得最快进步球员奖“带了一个不好的头”，本赛季各大体育网站纷纷押宝类似莫兰特的青年才俊们获得最快进步球员奖。安东尼·爱德华兹、锡安·威廉姆森、凯德·坎宁安、等人的赔率最高，而那些草根球员的努力却没有被重视。

原贴：

Ja Morant winning MIP set a bad precedent for the award

贾·莫兰特获最快进步球员奖“坏了规矩”

Several sports books predictions for Most Improved Player have their highest odds on guys like Edwards, Zion, Cade, RJ. Why are young top overall picks even being discussed for this? They are supposed to be GREAT. Not to mention the fact that these guys have already proven themselves as 20ppg scorers. Zion himself literally averaged 27ppg in his second year how can he possibly be considered for this award?!?!

在几个体育网站（①https://www.covers.com/nba/most-improved-player-odds②https://www.vegasinsider.com/nba/odds/most-improved/③https://www.si.com/betting/2022/10/06/2022-23-nba-most-improved-player-odds）对进步最快球员的预测中，爱德华兹、锡安、坎宁安等人的赔率最高。为什么年轻的状元会因此被讨论?他们本就该成为传奇。更不用说这些家伙已经证明了他们是场均20分的得分手。锡安在自己第二年时就场均27分，这个奖项为什么还要考虑他？

对此，网友们展开了激烈争论。主要观点如下：

一、评判应实事求是，不能因为球员本身是青年才俊就不能获奖

1.I don't understand this. A lot of people share this sentiment, but why is this a thing? The award is meant for the player who improved the most. Not the player who improved the most who was not supposed/expected to. Even when people say "but it shouldn't go to second year players, because that improvement is expected", why does it matter? Does the improvement have to happen in an unexpected manner?

Maybe I'm missing something, but I just don't understand why we don't award it to players who have improved the most.

我不明白。很多人都有同样的感受，但为什么会出现这种情况呢?这个奖是给进步最快球员的，而不是那些我没想到他会进步很快，但他进步很快的球员。人们都说“它不应该属于一个二年级球员，这个球员的进步是可以预见的”，但为什么不行呢?只有难以预见的进步才算进步吗？

也许我看漏了一些东西，但我就是不明白，为什么我们不用这个奖来奖励那些确实进步最快的球员呢？

2.I kind of disagree. I don't think expectations absolutely need to be a factor in mip. Ja took a leap and started looking like he could be a legit superstar. He scored like 10 more points per game and increased his efficiency a lot.if one of them truly ascends and has a large statistical increase I don't see an issue with them winning. Though Zion would be pretty absurd.

我有点不同意。我不认为期望值是最快进步球员奖项的必要因素。贾迈出了一步，开始看起来像一个真正的超级巨星。他每场比赛多得了10分，大大提高了他的效率。

我不认为这是一个先例。如果一个人真的取得了很大提高，那么他就该拿这个奖项。

当然，锡安（这种已经很优秀的球员）拿最快进步球员奖，的确有些荒谬。

二、高顺位的青年才俊们的确很优秀，但草根球员的进步更应该被重视

1.【5500赞】The best MIP award was Julius Randle when he did a 180 on his career over a single off-season. Role player to all-star.

最快进步球员奖应该是朱利叶斯·兰德尔，他在一个休赛期完成了职业生涯180度大转弯。从角色球员到全明星。

-Oladipo winning was also great, had a breakout season at age 25, became an allstar and was all nba for the first time in his career

-奥拉迪波的胜利也很伟大，他在25岁的时候有一个突破性的赛季，职业生涯第一次入选n全明星。

2.For what it’s worth, MIP award is the successor of the Comeback player of the year award. It really has no place being given to great young phenoms who take that expected jump, but it’s easier for the voters that way I guess

Edit: for further context, PG and Kevin Love both won it in there 3rd seasons, just like Ja, so it’s not strictly an age thing. But I think it’s because they made a leap from just a good player to an all star caliber one in that season; whereas Ja already was. It’s just odd because there were better candidates.Hell, Morant wasn’t even the best candidate on his team.

无论如何，最快进步球员真的没有位置给那些伟大的年轻天才，他们的表现只是取得了预期的飞跃（也许正是如此，大家才会把票投给他们）。

ps:保罗·乔治和凯文·勒夫都是在第三季获得该奖项的，就像贾一样，所以严格来说不是年龄的问题。但我认为这是因为他们在那个赛季完成了从一个优秀球员到全明星球员的蜕变。而莫兰特在成为最快进步球员之前，已经是全明星水准的球员了。（所以）这很奇怪，因为有更合适的候选人。莫兰特甚至不是他们队里最适合的候选人。

3.Ja wasn't even the MIP of his own team lol

贾甚至不是他自己团队的最快进步球员，哈哈。

Ja was the absoluetly the most improved on his team.

贾绝对是他们队中进步最快的。

I always new Ja was a good player, I must have missed where he stepped it up because he was always like this in my eyes.

我一直认为贾是一个好球员，我一定是错过了他的进步，因为在我眼里他一直就是最顶尖的。

4.If Zion gets it the award is officially meaningless. Might as well just rename it "MVP for players under 25

如果（今年）锡安拿到了，这个奖项就毫无意义了。不如改名为“25岁以下球员的MVP。

-mao if Zion wins MIP the award lost its meaning completely.For Zion to actually deserve it he'd have to put up 30+ ppg, or greatly improve his assist and rebound numbers

-如果锡安赢得了MIP，这个奖项就完全失去了意义。对于锡安来说，如果他想得到这个荣誉，他必须场均贡献30+，或者大大提高他的助攻和篮板数据。

-Comeback player of the year would be more apt. Assuming he has a great season that is.

Like when MJ came out of retirement. KD or Klay bouncing back from season ending injuries and balling out

-如果他打出一个不错的赛季，年度最佳复出球员奖可能更适合他。就像乔丹退役再复出，或者杜兰特/克莱从伤病中恢复过来并开始打球一样。

5.I actually agree with this take. Give it to the role players who bust their ass, not the guy who was supposed to be the franchise player...

实际上我同意这个观点。把它交给那些拼了命的角色球员，而不是那个本该成为球队核心的家伙……

三、我心目中的最快进步球员是......

1.Poole Garland Murray. My vote was Poole but any of those 3 winning would have made sense. Ja was already an all star caliber player.

普尔、加兰和穆雷。我投的是普尔的票，但这三个人中的任何一个都值得最快进步球员奖。贾已经是全明星级别的球员了。

2.Poole. Went from g league to possibly second most important player on the warriors with klay curry green all injured and wiggins struggling post allstar. Poole led the league in 3 pointers made in the 1 and half month he was starting with curry injured. Easy choice over ja

普尔。从发展联盟走出来，成长为勇士队在没有克莱、格林库里受伤、维金斯表现全明星后表现挣扎时勇士队第二重要的球员。在库里受伤的情况下，普尔在首发的1个半月里投进了联盟第一多的三分球。这是一个很简单的选择，绝对要比莫兰特更值得这个奖项。

3.I think Bane over Poole, but both are better than Ja.

我认为贝恩比普尔好，但他们都比莫兰特更应该获奖。

4.I would’ve picked Maxey or Poole because I do see the award as a more of a bottom up profession rather than just “best improvement overall” , like Poole/Maxey/Bane .

我会选马克西或普尔，因为我确实认为这个奖项应该颁发给一个从底层到顶层的球员，而不仅仅是“整体进步最快”，就像普尔/马克西/贝恩一样。

5.Jordan Poole was robbed. Ja was an MVP candidate, which means he's expected to play at a consistently high level. Just goes to show how the narrative peddlers at ESPN and company ruin these aspects of the league.

乔丹·普尔的奖被抢走了。贾是MVP候选人，这意味着他被期望能打出持续的高水平。这正好说明ESPN和他们的公司是如何毁了联盟的这些方面的。

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