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People don't realize if injuries never plagued Portland, they would have been the warriors before the warriors. Oden was insanely good, there is a reason he was considered a #1 overall pick regardless of what team got the pick. Also Roy would be a HoF if not for his knees. IYKYK

人们没有意识到，如果伤病没有困扰开拓者，他们本来就是勇士队之前的勇士队。奥登非常出色，他被认为是无论哪支球队都会选中的第一顺位新秀，这是有原因的。此外，如果不是膝盖问题，罗伊也会进入名人堂。

Nah they were good, no one arguing that. BUT the question is would they win a title? They winning vs the 2012 Spurs, 2012 Thunder AND the 2012 Miami Heat to win the ship?

不，他们很棒，没人会争辩这一点。但问题是他们能赢得总冠军吗？他们能在2012年击败马刺队、雷霆队和迈阿密热火队赢得总冠军吗？

I mean...Spurs still had Duncan, Parker, Manu and Kawhi plus Pop at coach.

As much as they underachieved, Thunder still had three future MVPs in OKC too.

我的意思是…马刺队仍然拥有邓肯、帕克、马努和卡瓦伊以及波波维奇担任教练。 尽管他们表现不佳，但雷霆队在俄克拉荷马城仍然拥有三名未来的MVP。

Brandon Roy was different and clutch too and a healthy Greg oden would have been a force inside. Definitely deep playoff runs

布兰登·罗伊与众不同，也很关键，健康的格雷格·奥登将成为内线的一股强大力量。绝对能在季后赛掀起血雨腥风

Weren’t better than the thunder or spurs

不如雷霆或马刺

They wouldn't have got Dame if B-Roy was still there.

如果B-Roy还在那里，他们就不会得到利拉德。

It's one of the great ifs of being a Blazers fan. Hard to say what team in that era would compete with them. Even Miami would be a question mark. People don't realize how good B Roy was; Kobe said he was the hardest player for him to guard.

这是作为开拓者球迷的一个巨大的假设。很难说在那个时代哪支球队能与他们竞争。甚至有老詹热火也要掂量掂量自己。人们没有意识到B Roy有多好；科比说他是最难防守的球员。

No. They were not beating the Lebron, Wade and Bosh Miami Heat.

不。他们不会击败詹姆斯、韦德和波什组成的迈阿密热火。

If the mavericks and spurs could do it. I believe they could. It’s not like they were unbeatable. Obviously.

如果小牛和马刺能做到这一点。我相信他们也能做到。显然,他们也不是不可战胜的。。

this team with an injured limping brandon roy almost upset the Mavs(2011 champs) in the first round without lillard or oden. they gave the mavs a harder series than the heat. now add lillard and a healthy oden

这支球队在没有利拉德或奥登的情况下,带着受伤的布兰登·罗伊几乎在第一轮淘汰了小牛（2011年总冠军）。他们给了小牛比热火更艰难的系列赛。现在加上利拉德和健康的奥登

The Mavs and Heat also went 6 games. The Heat was up 2-1 at one point.

小牛和热火也打了6场比赛。热火曾经以2-1领先。

If healthy? Lebron couldn’t get past Dwight’s magic the year before because Dwight is in the middle stopping all the drives to the basket, which was the main strength of Miami with Wade and Lebron being great in that area, doubt they beat this Portland team fully healthy

如果健康？詹姆斯在前一年无法通过有霍华德的魔术，因为霍华德在禁区能防下所有的篮下得分，而这是迈阿密的主要优势，韦德和勒布朗在这方面都很出色，怀疑他们能否击败这支完全健康的开拓者队。

That was in 2009 when LeBron was a solo act on the Cavs, there is 0 chance that Portland team beats Bron in Miami.

那是在2009年，当时詹姆斯是骑士队的院长，开拓者队有0%的机会击败迈阿密的詹姆斯。

Right, the year before he melted down with that same Heat against  the Mavs, they weren’t invincible, And the year b4 that Boston made him run out of town to Miami, and yes 09 his team highly favored to win the east, lost to Dwight Howard’s magic..

对，就在前一年，他和同样的热火队在对阵小牛队时崩溃了，他们并不是不可战胜的。而且在那之前的一年，凯尔特人让他逃离了迈阿密，是的，在09年他的球队被高度看好赢得东部冠军，却输给了霍华德的魔术队。 

Oden? Better then the heats center (unless you consider bosh their center). Bosh and Aldridge ? Equal (unless bosh was center then major win for Portland). Batum ain’t no Lebron and that’s fair. Prime BRoy ain’t no Wade but skilled. Lillard def way better than Chalmers. Blazers.

奥登？比热火中锋更好（除非你认为波什是他们的中锋）。波什和阿尔德里奇？相等（除非波什是中锋，那么开拓者将大获全胜）。巴图姆不是詹姆斯，这很公平。巅峰时期的BRoy不是韦德，但技能娴熟。利拉德绝对比查尔默斯强多了。开拓者。

Mavericks team won’t even better than this and they did it …

小牛队甚至不如这样的开拓者，但他们做到了……

You probably said the same about Dirk & his old teammates in 2011

你可能在2011年也这样说过诺维茨基和他那些老队友

Trying to figure out what Oden would look like “completely healthy” is nearly impossible for me.

试图想象“完全健康”的奥登会是什么样子对我来说几乎是不可能的。

Brother they weren't beating D-Rose and that Chicago team either

兄弟们，他们也不会击败D-Rose和那支芝加哥公牛

Idk about lillard being the 3rd or 4th  option. He’s not really a natural point guard, he’s shooting guard playing point.  That team would’ve needed a rondo or old Chris Paul type player. Lillard could score but I don’t think he would’ve been much of a facilitator.

我不确定利拉德是否会成为第三或第四选择。他并不是一个天生的控球后卫，而是一个打控球后卫位置的得分后卫。那支球队需要一个隆多或克里斯·保罗那样的球员。利拉德能得分，但我认为他不会成为一个多么出色的组织者。

dame was an elite playmaker his early years and still is.

 利拉德在早期就是一名顶级组织者，并且现在仍然如此。

Greg Oden was a number 1 pick over KD for a reason. He would’ve been a beast but none of y’all know basketball like that. Blazers are the most unlucky when it comes to career-ending injuries.

格雷格·奥登之所以能在KD之前成为第一顺位新秀，是有原因的。他本来会成为一头野兽，但你们都不懂篮球。但开拓者兽医队可是名不虚传的。

Naw. Dame and BRoy ain’t a good fit. Put Wesley Mathews where Roy is and it’ll be a better fit. But they still not beating the Heat Thunder or Spurs in 2012 though lol

不。利拉德和B罗伊并不搭配。把韦斯利·马修斯放在罗伊的位置上，会更搭配。但他们仍然无法在2012年击败热火、雷霆或马刺队，哈哈